Comments on: Missionary Ethics http://chosunjournal.com/2007/03/28/missionary-ethics/ Informing, provoking, and mobilizing consciences for human rights in North Korea. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:04:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: kato http://chosunjournal.com/2007/03/28/missionary-ethics/#comment-71510 Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:43:20 +0000 http://chosunjournal.com/2007/03/28/missionary-ethics/#comment-71510 Thanks for interesting reading here, now I got time to think about it.Good luck. Thanks for interesting reading here, now I got time to think about it.Good luck.

]]> by: John Koeman http://chosunjournal.com/2007/03/28/missionary-ethics/#comment-61431 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:18:37 +0000 http://chosunjournal.com/2007/03/28/missionary-ethics/#comment-61431 Having visited Korean Factories in Indonesia and delivered commercial trainings at Daewoo in Europe I tend to think that South Koreans are pretty hard handed as well when it comes to quell any form of dissent. Ask any Indonesian labor activist about South Korean management and they'll tell you some pretty horrible stories. Having read your webpage I never cease to be surprised at how vehemently religious organizations tend to be active against communism whereas things like child labor in Western Europe was abolished under predominantly socialist struggle. Religious organisations have achieved amazing little when it comes to fighting injustice. Au contraire Jesus's followers decided to provide priests for the West German army which led to severe persecution of Christians in the former East-Germany. Also because of the unwavering loyalty to the great United States most christian organizations cannot be any alternative to the fierce Korean nationalism bred in the DPRK. That might explain the relative popularity of the DPRK in the South. Did you know there is a board of former South Korean politicians in Pyongyang? Initially headed bu general Choe Dok Sin, the South Koream ambassador to Austria and Australia? Later he founded the Chondoist party of North Korea. We should help the people in the DPRK by sending help without strings attached. Not have them dismantle their nuclear installations like Clinton did, then hand over to Bush who didn't live up to his part of the deal. Diplomacy in Asia is usually done quite covertly like the "secret" China DPRK visa deal of 2006. Stop using Jesus for your own petty little ends. Help Koreans unite and pray that the Americans will follow suit when it comes to dealing with the DPRK in a South Korean way. Having visited Korean Factories in Indonesia and delivered commercial trainings at Daewoo in Europe I tend to think that South Koreans are pretty hard handed as well when it comes to quell any form of dissent.
Ask any Indonesian labor activist about South Korean management and they’ll tell you some pretty horrible stories.
Having read your webpage I never cease to be surprised at how vehemently religious organizations tend to be active against communism whereas things like child labor in Western Europe was abolished under predominantly socialist struggle. Religious organisations have achieved amazing little when it comes to fighting injustice. Au contraire
Jesus’s followers decided to provide priests for the West German army which led to severe persecution of Christians in the former East-Germany.
Also because of the unwavering loyalty to the great United States most christian organizations cannot be any alternative to the fierce Korean nationalism bred in the DPRK. That might explain the relative popularity of the DPRK in the South. Did you know there is a board of former South Korean politicians in Pyongyang? Initially headed bu general Choe Dok Sin, the South Koream ambassador to Austria and Australia? Later he founded the Chondoist party of North Korea.

We should help the people in the DPRK by sending help without strings attached. Not have them dismantle their nuclear installations like Clinton did, then hand over to Bush who didn’t live up to his part of the deal.
Diplomacy in Asia is usually done quite covertly like the “secret” China DPRK visa deal of 2006.
Stop using Jesus for your own petty little ends. Help Koreans unite and pray that the Americans will follow suit when it comes to dealing with the DPRK in a South Korean way.

]]> by: Rob http://chosunjournal.com/2007/03/28/missionary-ethics/#comment-53889 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:08:00 +0000 http://chosunjournal.com/2007/03/28/missionary-ethics/#comment-53889 It does not help a person to gain the whole world (i.e. freedom, luxury, the good life) and the lose his soul? These women have now been given the free choice to either live in relative freedom in China, risk their lives to live more comfortably in South Korea, or to help bring TRUE freedom to their families and friends by returning to North Korea and share the message that will save their countrymen for eternity. Jesus never said that following Him would be safe. This is a concept that western Christians have forgotten. We should honor and respect the decisions of North Koreans to return to their home country and risk death for the sake of the Gospel. Josh has missed the entire point of the work the missionaries. Yes, we should seek social justice and help those in physical need, but if we don't also offer them spiritual life through Christ, we have ultimately done them a disservice... It does not help a person to gain the whole world (i.e. freedom, luxury, the good life) and the lose his soul? These women have now been given the free choice to either live in relative freedom in China, risk their lives to live more comfortably in South Korea, or to help bring TRUE freedom to their families and friends by returning to North Korea and share the message that will save their countrymen for eternity. Jesus never said that following Him would be safe. This is a concept that western Christians have forgotten. We should honor and respect the decisions of North Koreans to return to their home country and risk death for the sake of the Gospel. Josh has missed the entire point of the work the missionaries. Yes, we should seek social justice and help those in physical need, but if we don’t also offer them spiritual life through Christ, we have ultimately done them a disservice…

]]> by: Jon http://chosunjournal.com/2007/03/28/missionary-ethics/#comment-49735 Tue, 20 May 2008 09:16:09 +0000 http://chosunjournal.com/2007/03/28/missionary-ethics/#comment-49735 We were commanded to go into all the world and make disciples. We were also told to become like children. Who are any of us to question a purer belief than our own? You think they'd be better off if we broadcast their cases to the world? They're simply being obedient to God. Remember what Jesus' followers did in Acts when they faced social injustice - they prayed and then went out in faith. And us? We look for a safer road. Brothers, the narrow road has no guarantee of safe passage. We were commanded to go into all the world and make disciples. We were also told to become like children. Who are any of us to question a purer belief than our own? You think they’d be better off if we broadcast their cases to the world? They’re simply being obedient to God. Remember what Jesus’ followers did in Acts when they faced social injustice - they prayed and then went out in faith. And us? We look for a safer road. Brothers, the narrow road has no guarantee of safe passage.

]]> by: Henny http://chosunjournal.com/2007/03/28/missionary-ethics/#comment-8026 Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:10:28 +0000 http://chosunjournal.com/2007/03/28/missionary-ethics/#comment-8026 I'm wondering if the message regarding the plight of North Koreans would be heard more if young women like Grace and Esther could speak to the issue in South Korea, the USA, and/or Canada or any other free country for that matter. With a journalist like Josh involved, their story and that of many others could be spread. Of course, one of these countries would need to give them refugee status. Would that not serve a greater purpose in the work towards social justice? Other free Christians could offer assistance to these brave young women as they begin a new life. Part of the work of those brave missionaries in North Korea could be to give hope by sharing what young women like Grace and Esther are doing for them. These are just thoughts I am having as I am reading your column. It was very thought provoking. I’m wondering if the message regarding the plight of North Koreans would be heard more if young women like Grace and Esther could speak to the issue in South Korea, the USA, and/or Canada or any other free country for that matter. With a journalist like Josh involved, their story and that of many others could be spread. Of course, one of these countries would need to give them refugee status. Would that not serve a greater purpose in the work towards social justice? Other free Christians could offer assistance to these brave young women as they begin a new life. Part of the work of those brave missionaries in North Korea could be to give hope by sharing what young women like Grace and Esther are doing for them. These are just thoughts I am having as I am reading your column. It was very thought provoking.

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